Tired to death

There can be few topics in the Shakespeare authorship debate which have engendered as much nonsense as Robert Greene's complaint about an Upstart Crow treading on his toes.

Most recently, the first reference to Shakespeare has spawned a whole TV series now in its second season, written by Ben Elton and featuring the whole Bankside crew. It's vital for doubters to prove that Greene's Upstart Crow does not refer to Shakespeare. Making this refer to someone else is like throwing a double six to start your game of snakes, ladders and authorship candidates. If it's allowed to stand, it's a clear reference to Will, uniting Barber's two Shakespeare's before she can properly separate them, before his career is properly underway and crucially, while her own candidate, Marlowe, is still alive. If there's a reference to Will before the Marlovian resurrection occurs, Barber's favoured candidate is a non-starter. 

When it became apparent that Ros Barber was going to regurgitate the standard doubter line in attempting to deny that Greene was referring to Shakespeare, Tom Reedy, a veteran of many such arguments, weighed wearily in.

This video is what I call a "target-rich" environment. Instead of using essay form, I'll start the ball rolling with an (incomplete) list.

  1. Johannes Factotum is italicized because it is Latin, not because it’s a proper name. “Upstart Crow” is not italicized either.
  2. If “Shake-scene” meant “actor”, we would expect to find it used in other works. It is unique to Greene’s pamphlet.
  3. “Shake-rag” does not mean beggar; it describes the vendors of broadsides who would stand on street corners and hawk their sheets by holding them up in the air and shaking them while shouting about the contents at the passing crowds. See Kemp’s Nine Days Wonder.
  4. Actors don’t shake the scenery; Elizabethan stages were virtually scenery-free.
  5. Edward Alleyn didn’t move to Dulwich until 1605, too late for Greene to be referring to his windmill there.
  6. When Greene was writing, Alleyn had been a top actor for a decade, hardly an upstart in the world of the London theatre.
  7. While the general public would indeed associate memorable lines with actors, Greene’s letter was written to playwrights who knew who wrote what in the close-knit world of Bankside theatres.
  8. There's no reason given for why the Player in Greene's autobiographical piece is identified with the conceited upstart crow in his letter to the three playwrights. Even if the Player is Alleyn (the story is emblematic, not literal, as Greene was a successful pamphleteer before writing for the stage), the crow could be Shakespeare (the reasons have been set out too many times to rehearse here).

I think that the quizzes are the most disgraceful thing. I joined the second session to see if things have improved but no they have not. I have failed the first quiz again because I will not perjure myself by parroting what Ros has told us, although I believe it untrue. Quizzes should not be based on opinion but fact. It doesn't matter to me but, as Nat rightly points out, failure for some learners would mean no certificate, that is important to them for vocational purposes. These are the worst designed quizzes that I ever have encountered on a mooc and I have done many on subjects other than the SAQ.


Joan GreenleafCourse participant

Can you defend Ros Barber's design and conduct of this course? Do you think she chose the word "orthodox" in the belief that it is neutral? Are quizzes that force the taker to assent to falsehoods not a travesty? Is it not irrelevant slander to harp on grain hoarding, to insist that Shakespeare's daughters were illiterate, to Photoshop a headless bull on his arms, in place of his falcon with a spear?


Nat WhilkOxfraud


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